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Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:01 pm
by hammb
factman wrote:I believe each sport is treated individually.


Yep. You get 5 years to play 4 if each sport.

I've seen guys play 4 years of football then go play basketball for a year, or vice versa.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:34 am
by Flipper
I think Chris Weinke played college football into his 40';s

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:55 am
by roguewarrior
I think both the “athletes” in the 2020 class will be DB’s, so a few more to add on the defensive side.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:59 am
by roguewarrior
[quote="drumstix2388"]Heard that, as of right now, we are able to hang on to Gazarek because of his opportunity to be a two-sport athlete here. That'd be a big one to keep in this year's class.

My assumption is the MSU offer is not a take offer, more a “we like you” offer, and if something goes bad, we may call you late to make it real.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:07 pm
by Schadenfreude
roguewarrior wrote:My assumption is the MSU offer is not a take offer, more a “we like you” offer, and if something goes bad, we may call you late to make it real.


How does that work? Are you referring to changing expectations on playing time?

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:30 pm
by Globetrotter
You have 5 years to do whatevs. You can play Basketball for four years at Duke and then play QB for Syracuse for a year if you want.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:25 pm
by drumstix2388
Globetrotter wrote:You have 5 years to do whatevs. You can play Basketball for four years at Duke and then play QB for Syracuse for a year if you want.


Oh man, I forgot about Paulus. I should have known the answer considering my background, but wasn't positive. Thanks for the clarifications, everyone.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:40 pm
by jpfalcon09
Schadenfreude wrote:
roguewarrior wrote:My assumption is the MSU offer is not a take offer, more a “we like you” offer, and if something goes bad, we may call you late to make it real.


How does that work? Are you referring to changing expectations on playing time?


Sparty likely doesn't want him playing two sports. His offer there is basically "we're interested in you as a football player only, but if you change your mind on BG or if we have a desperate need, we'll swing back around."

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:38 pm
by roguewarrior
Schadenfreude wrote:
roguewarrior wrote:My assumption is the MSU offer is not a take offer, more a “we like you” offer, and if something goes bad, we may call you late to make it real.


How does that work? Are you referring to changing expectations on playing time?


MSU has over 100 offers on the board. Each offer is relatively meaningless until they ask you if you are willing to commit. It’s by no means a marriage, and until they sign their NLI even a commit can be pulled by the school, or the kid . It’s December, if it was a “take” offer, he would have commited to MSU by now. He can’t be squeezing MSU..... imagine a power 5 not far from home offers you a spot, your not going to say IM IN! Immediately?!? I would bet your life that it is not a take offer through today..... but.....it could change by Dec 18, if something goes awry in MSU’ s board, and a spot opens for him.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:57 pm
by roguewarrior
jpfalcon09 wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
roguewarrior wrote:My assumption is the MSU offer is not a take offer, more a “we like you” offer, and if something goes bad, we may call you late to make it real.


How does that work? Are you referring to changing expectations on playing time?


Sparty likely doesn't want him playing two sports. His offer there is basically "we're interested in you as a football player only, but if you change your mind on BG or if we have a desperate need, we'll swing back around."


So you think Loeffler is willing to let him miss winter lifting and spring ball for 4 years, so he can play baseball?? I would bet that is a NO.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:45 pm
by factman
We have had a number of athletes do it successfully.
Bob Niemet was probably the most prominent as he was our starting QB and 1st baseman and drafted by SF
If I remember correctly, Jeff Groth was all-conference I both sports and a WR in the NFL. There are a number of others and it works well if the coaches are willing to work together.
If he is not willing to work with it, he is likely not to get him. It reallY isn’t that tough to work out.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:51 pm
by roguewarrior
factman wrote:We have had a number of athletes do it successfully.
Bob Niemet was probably the most prominent as he was our starting QB and 1st baseman and drafted by SF
If I remember correctly, Jeff Groth was all-conference I both sports and a WR in the NFL. There are a number of others and it works well if the coaches are willing to work together.


I’m not saying it can’t be accomplished, I’m saying under the current roster circumstances and trying to build a culture, they wouldn’t want him missing from that in this crucial year(s).

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:21 pm
by factman
Seems to me that an athlete that is willing to work hard enough and long enough to play TWO D-1 sports, is setting a great example of the culture you want to create.

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:50 pm
by roguewarrior
factman wrote:Seems to me that an athlete that is willing to work hard enough and long enough to play TWO D-1 sports, is setting a great example of the culture you want to create.


Except he doesn’t lift, he doesn’t get stronger, he doesn’t put on weight, doesn’t learn the offense, doesn’t get timed with the lineman, doesn’t get timed with the QB, doesn’t interact and bond with his teammates, doesn’t know his position coach......

Re: 2020 Recruiting Class

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:25 pm
by Flipper
We've had football players help out on the basketball team in the recent past